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38 out of 51 people found the following comment useful :-
British grit, meets contemporary commercial cinema..., 27 agosto 2007

Author: Lee Russell de Sussex, UK.

I went to one of the first official screenings of this film last night at the frightfest in London, West End. It was brilliant! I wouldn't suggest that I was sceptical, but more open minded and intrigued to discover exactly what this movie was going to be like. I had heard mixed reviews about pre-completed screenings and at the end of the day, didn't want to waste my Sunday evening.

I am pleased to say that 'WaZ' is a perfect mixture of raw grit, commercial trends and generic cliché's. I am not always a fan of modern day camera work and cinematography, yet this film comfortably took it to the limit and told a great story in an innovative way. Well done to Mr Shankland and fellow cast and crew, as this film will (in my mind) no doubt keep thriller fans on the edge of their seats when spending the close approaching weekend evenings at the flicks.

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37 out of 58 people found the following comment useful :-
Superior to Saw and other so-called torture porn, 5 marzo 2008

Author: standeman1984 de United Kingdom

To begin with, this movie isn't just another torture porn flick that we've seen a glut of in recent times (Saw, Hostel and the like). There's actually a decent plot regarding the murderer and their victims, something that examines humanity's darker side yet goes beyond the base sadism displayed in actual torture porn, which this isn't. The marketing campaign gave it the appearance of such a film and i was nearly put off, however my optimism got the better of me as I confess, I am a huge horror fan and there were glimpses that it could be quite good. And it is, in fact it's very good.

There's a rugged brutal efficiency in the way this film goes about delivering the goods. You've got your cops, new and old, with sketchy case files and hints of crookedness, a scientific theory of genetics being exploited by our murderer and a gang of outlaws who are being targeted. All of it is carried out with appropriate macabre and occasional wit and humour, good, edgy hand-held camera techniques, clever acting and a pacey script. I thought it was great on an intelligence level and I squirmed every time there was a 'nail' scene.

I was even more surprised to learn afterwards that this was a British production, was shot in Belfast and used a largely British cast, yet had me fooled as to it's New York setting and convincing accents. What more can i say apart from wow, i love this movie? I also realised after that Waz is Saw backwards, and a cynic may say that is opportunistic marketing, but to them i say, see the movie and tell me it doesn't at least give Saw a run for it's money, if not kick it's stupid face off. Saw's ideas were good, but their killer seemed a flimsy afterthought to me. In Waz, the killer and their motives are integral to the plot,(which surprises before a satisfactory ending)and it's hard not to find empathy for the killer, something i never got in Saw. The great script and acting add depth and character to the story, which hit me with surprises and left me feeling contemplative, which is unusual for horror today.

Verdict: Come for the torture, stay for the good movie

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33 out of 53 people found the following comment useful :-
Surprised, 8 octubre 2007

Author: kosmasp

I was surprised when I watched this movie at the Fantasy Film Festival in Stuttgart/Germany. And I'm surprised that it got a high rating here at IMDb too. Not because it doesn't deserve it in my eyes (obviously as seen in my rating). I just didn't expect a relatively small movie (even with a stellar cast, and yes pun intended) to be noticed that much, but I was wrong.

The movie itself is very dark and gritty. It's also not for the faint hearted! There are scenes here, that might make you squeal, if you're not up for the brutality of what is shown! Allow yourself into this brutal and dark world and be amazed by it's "beauty"! That's all I have to say, about this thriller ...

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19 out of 26 people found the following comment useful :-
brutal yet thought-provoking, 10 octubre 2007

Author: darkslyde de London, England

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It seemed to me as though the film is confused whether it is an edgy noir-esquire thriller or 'torture porn' in the vein of Saw. On the one hand the production is excellent with hand-held camera-work and a sensitive use of low-key lighting (the film is VERY dark) adding to the ubiquitous air of suspense. On the other hand it could be said that the torture at the end is a bit excessive, crowd-pleasing and/or shatters the Hitchcockian intensity associated with allowing the audience to conceive the horrors in their own minds (though personally I like a bit of gratuitous violence). At the heart of this film though is a battle between love and hatred that gets you thinking. Some on these boards have said that it has changed their whole view of life and love. While it probably hasn't affected me quite so profoundly I would have to say that everyone should watch this film as it's guaranteed to entertain, engage and inspire, which is what all art should do. Overall a very good movie: 8/10.

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24 out of 39 people found the following comment useful :-
Not bad, just a triumph of style over substance, 28 febrero 2008

Author: seawalker de Birmingham, England

The most influential American horror movie of the last 20 years is "Seven". This much is undeniable. I really liked "Seven". Great movie. It might be one of my favourites. The only problem is that every inner city set horror thriller made since comes across, to me, as "Seven"-lite.

Which brings me to "Waz".

A city of permanent night. A cop on the edge. A diabolical killer. Inventive, ingenious torture and murder. Victims with a reason for being victimised.

Yup. "Seven"-lite. Not necessarily a bad thing in itself, because you have to take every movie on it's own merits, but disappointing when witnessed over and over again.

"Waz" isn't bad. It is just unoriginal and a triumph of style over substance. The city is effectively portrayed as grim, dirty, cold and wet. You wouldn't want to go there on holiday. You wouldn't want to hang out with any of these people. The tone of the film is unpleasant, seedy and black. To coin a dated phrase, a video nasty. It will get you down. It also has one of the most disturbing filmed sequences of sexual abuse I have ever seen. All insinuated, you don't see a thing, but it is horrible.

Melissa George has been better and is frankly wasted as the pouting sidekick, but "Waz" does have a superior cast (Stellan Skarsgård, Selma Blair, Tom Hardy, etc.) for what is effectively a straightforward genre movie. Some of the questions I had as to why they signed up for this movie were answered during the denouement, when the motivations behind Stellan Skarsgård's actions are revealed and his character develops levels way beyond that of a tormented cop.

So, "Waz" was OK. Not bad for a walk on the dark side.

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Solid and Dark Police Story, 20 octubre 2008

Author: Claudio Carvalho de Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

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When the body of the pregnant girlfriend of the criminal Wesley Smith (Michael Liebman) is found electrocuted, detectives Eddie Argo (Stellan Skarsgård) and Helen Westcott (Melissa George) are assigned to investigate the case. They seek out Wesley with his gang of low-life criminals and Pierre (Tom Hardy), Jamal (Sean Brian Jordaan) and Daniel Leone (Ashley Walters) tell that they have not seen him. They move to a crack alley and the addicted whore Elly (Sally Hawkins) tells that Wesley is upstairs. They find Wesley tortured, with two fingers burnt and hanged with the equation W∆Z = Cov + E engraved on his flesh. Then they find Jamal and his twin brother Khaled killed in the same modus operandi and the coroner finds the dissociative anesthetic Ketamine in the autopsy. Helen finds that the only laboratory with the controlled substance available in the area is the one managed by the researcher Dr. Gelb (Paul Kaye). When they arrive, Dr. Gelb explains the meaning of the equation a.k.a. Price equation, which is a mathematical description of evolution and natural selection, i.e., there is no altruism in nature. Their further investigation discloses that Dr. Gelb's former assistant was Jean Lerner (Selma Blair), a young woman that was gang raped by Pierre and his gang and forced to kill her own mother. Due to contaminated evidences, the criminals have never been sentenced. Now she is forcing each rapist to kill the one he or she loves to save himself or herself from death, influenced by Dr. Gelb researches. Further, Helen suspects that her partner and detective Jack Corelli (John Sharian) intentionally destroyed the evidences.

"W∆Z" is a solid and dark police story and it is inevitable the comparison with the style and cinematography of "Se7en". The plot is very well resolved, supported by an excellent screenplay, great direction and stunning performances. The gruesome locations are depressive, using a dark cinematography, and the relationship between Eddie and Danny is a surprising twist. The characters are believable, with corrupt police and criminals living in the gray division between law and crime. This is the type of movie in which the killer has good motives for her actions. The plot is clever, raising questions about the existence and meaning of love and evolution of species. My vote is eight.

Title (Brazil): "W∆Z – Matemática da Morte" ("W∆Z – Mathematic of the Death")

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19 out of 32 people found the following comment useful :-
Not really that good.., 24 mayo 2008

Author: weemonk de United Kingdom

I give 5 stars as this is one of those films that you can watch and then throw away. It's not bad but it's not good. I don't think it's the sort of film where you would pull it out of your DVD collection every couple of months to watch.

I'm not sure what type of 'film' was used but the director went for (what looked like to me) HD hand-held cams. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean Cloverfield 'all over the show' sort of filming but rather the film print it's self. I suppose this gives the film it's 'gritty' look, which I can appreciate sometimes but for this movie it just made the production look cheap. If it weren't for the famous faces you'd be forgiven for thinking you may be watching a lower budget movie.

As for the film itself....we've seen such ideas already done with 'Saw' and 'untraceable'. There's no real new context here to give a fresh light to the story. The acting was fine and I have no problem with the direction....I just wasn't drawn into the film in any way. It was difficult to hold my interest or really care about the characters on screen.

I don't really give insight into the 'story' of a film when I review as others do that better but as a film goer I'd say that this is a throw-away film.....the sort you'd rent or watch to pass some time. As I've said before, it's not a bad film....but it isn't great. Slap bang in the middle

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It's like "Se7en", but made in china. But again... surprisingly nicely made, 30 enero 2009

Author: Michal Poniedzielski de Poland

"Se7en" was a good piece because of emotions, not the blood. It was a drama in the core and that was it's strength. Here we have the same attempt, not so well manufactured, but still worth noticing.

First of all we have here quite good screenplay which deals with characters and events in a psychologically believable way and has some interesting scientific backup. I read here some opinions about similarities of the plot with "Saw" and have to disagree. The difference lays in psychological background of evil which here is much more ... how to say this... real-life related. Realism is a good thing in thriller. It distinguish it from horror. In my opinion WAZ is more thriller while "Saw" is in fact more horror (shitty one, by the way). Characters are believable (very stereotypical but believable), and plot evolves logically. I wasn't disturbed by any "Yeah, right..." moments. Wasn't then either surprised by any scene at all, but this is why I give it 5 not 10. The directing is not bad too - it seems like whole crew was given the idea of what they have to do and generally they done it quite well. I see decent directing too in a way the violence and blood is shown - the whole movie is full of it but it is cut in right moments and needless gore is reduced. So here we are again closer to "Se7en" than "Saw"

Then we have Stellan who helps the script being not good and brings us some emotions. Melisa George is not so good but no one expected that. Selma Blair delivers some interesting moments of performance, but counted rather in seconds than minutes. A little surprise is Paul Kaye in a small but very intense and worth mentioning role.

Third thing is cinematography and lighting. They are done in a much much more intelligent way than in "Saw" yet still being similarly low-budget solutions (only the precinct - but not the entire film like "Saw" - looks like a film set... I can't help I'm seeing it). The screen is full of camera from hand almost every second of the film and this is as far as I know the ONLY on-set method of rescuing a digitally made film from a "miniDV wedding tape" look. Postproduction adds little grain and colors and some decent editing and final package brings us near to Michael Mann's "Collateral" (which is good). I dare to say that this film could be 2 stars better if done on REAL cameras.

Summing all up - it's rather cheap thriller but definitely one of the best in its class.

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2 out of 2 people found the following comment useful :-
WAZ (aka The Killing Gene), 13 marzo 2009

Author: brian-teles de United Kingdom

Interesting British-made thriller that borrows heavily (or is that steals?) from Se7en and Saw. Melissa George is cop trying to unravel a series of gruesome murders in New York with her gruff partner, Stellan Skarsgard. Somebody is bumping off several of the city's gang bangers and their loved ones and carving an equation onto their stomachs. The plot covers very familiar ground as the two very different detectives try to identify the killer. George does her best but her character is poorly defined - a bit more background should have been shown. Skarsgard is almost laughable in his attempt to be tough and cool, he merely comes across as being unintelligible. What makes this film different is the surprisingly good cast (Selma Blair, Tom Hardy, Ashley Walters, Sally Hawkins) who turn up. The final plot twist in the last 15 minutes is far-fetched and feels like a sensationalist tabloid headline. Tries to take a novel approach to the torture-porn genre by raising some interesting Darwinian questions but ultimately fails under its own pretensions. It's not hard to see why this went straight to DVD. Nice try though.

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3 out of 4 people found the following comment useful :-
Love/Hate, 27 agosto 2008

Author: matt-2483 de United Kingdom

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Unfortunately, I'm afraid this film is destined not to receive the acclaim it fully deserves. Don't watch this film if you are easily put off by sexual violence. Having said that though - I watched the film with my wife & 18yr old niece (both of whom I would describe as sensitive individuals), & they were both impressed with the film whose 18 certificate serves only really to protect from it's sensitive subject matter & is not an indication of overtly graphic violence/gore.

We gave the DVD a go one afternoon, not really knowing what to expect. Although the conditions were not what i'd normally regard as conducive to 'horror' viewing (sun creeping through closed curtains), the film instantly had me hooked with the underlying tension which is apparent even from the beginning, and builds right up to it's revealing climax. The whole 'WAZ' equation theory almost becomes insignificant.

OK, so you might see the twists & turns coming a long way off, but for me that doesn't affect the film in the slightest. What really makes the film is it's dark simplicity, brilliant direction & solidly real performances from a non-A-list cast. This film is for me what SAW always promised to be but got lost in it's pursuit of 'ever more creative ways to die'. WAZ isn't an in your face gore-fest with fantastically OTT special effects on a massive budget. It's so much more than that - A dark, gritty, highly atmospheric thriller with a dose of real emotion!

You will love it or hate it! I hope it's the prior.

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