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10/10
Insane
cambrannen18 June 2018
When I heard from a local friend that this weeks episode was rated at 7.9, I was very surprised. I can understand some episode "feeling" slow to some people...only because I can understand some people don't give a damn about background stories. For instance...last weeks episode wasn't filled full of sex, drinking and death...yet it was essential. Everyone knows the last 2 episodes in most seasons are the action/drama filled. The ones that leave you wanting and waiting for next year so you can start it over again. Season two of Westworld has left my mind blown and I'm almost pissed off last week is the season finale. IMDB...do better. This episode should clearly rate 9+. I've always trusted your judgement. Don't let us down now.
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10/10
Haters take over IMDb!
If I have to read 1/10 comments before broadcasting an episode, I'm really sorry for IMBd. They have lost their respected database to people who just want to foster hatred. Get that under control!
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10/10
The best science fiction program ever aired on television.
faldeuxer18 June 2018
The first two episodes of season two underwhelmed me. The next seven absolutely astonished me and gave real and palpable purpose to the first two episodes. This is not just great television, this is genre merging and unimpersonatable. At once this program is an engrossing mystery, multiple love stories, astoundingly violent, deeply emotional, primal and refined. Westworld almost defies any genre, it may well be it's own entirely. It reaches so far, it can almost touch any genre. There may never be a more brilliantly written, acted, photographed, and incredibly well executed piece of art to grace the digital airwaves. If you have not, watch it. If you have, watch it again. Pure brilliance, not to be missed.
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10/10
This episode is ... next gen TV. Masterpiece.
danielreyv18 June 2018
A lot of answers and a lot of questions left behind, but that's ok. We want to know more about Westworld and it's characters... Everything in this episode is SO important, so full of splendor, that we hope to understand, to see more clearly. We're starting to see how this season is going to end, or at least that's what we believe... until something comes out of nowhere to remind us that we are watching a new generation of creativeness and art. We are watching West f** world.

Please rate this episode 9+. This deserves more. Thanks to all the people involved with WW. Thank you Nolan and Lisa for creating something else.

10/10
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10/10
Man in black
antonioamelendez18 June 2018
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SPOILER: It was good to have William explain why be turned into the way he is now. I'm curious to see if he was really a host this entire time. The last scene we see with William is him checking to see if he is a host. Sad about Teddy, but it was good to see he wouldn't be controlled by Dolores anymore.
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10/10
"Don't let Them"
XweAponX18 June 2018
Why didn't Maeve leave on the train when she had the chance?

Instead of being free in the real world she is now strapped down to a table in Westworld while they literally cut chunks out of her in more ways than just physical.

We are now catching up to some of the events that we saw in episode one of this very disturbing second season of what can only be now called "Game of Westworld."

We have seen that the valley beyond had been turned into the ocean beyond, and we didn't know why. Now we just see a little bit more, a little bit farther. Some of the events in this episode make me question the timeline between S2E1 and here. Either there is something goofy with the order of events (that we can figure out, that is), or there are more hosts and people that we don't know are hosts then we have ever imagined. In any event season two has been presented more like the way a host would perceive it's own memories, we saw some of this type of storytelling in season one, but it is much more prevalent here. So we have to ask "when exactly is this happening"?

It all comes back to the machinations of the "man in black", William. Who was one person out in the real world, but he was William in Westworld.

This episode focuses mostly on his personal story, but we also have Bernard and Maeve, and of course Ford.

What about Dolores? But she is also connected to William, and to Maeve, and to Arnold.

And then there is Hale:

Don't let them do it, Maeve.

Look for some excellent character actors in this episode including Sela Ward as Mrs Man in Black. And pay attention to some of the guests at William's party.
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10/10
Incredible!
sixfeetunder318918 June 2018
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Another incredible episode. Maybe not as incredible as last week's episode IMO, but this was a very important episode, with a lot of twists and turns that left me in awe constantly. There was a heck of a load of character development with William, changing him from a cold-hearted killer of hosts, to just simply a cold-hearted killer. I'd hoped he'd turned a new leaf when he saved Laurence's wife and children in that one episode, but I guess not. I suppose that kid (who was Ford obviously) was right when they said that that one good deed doesn't erase all the bad things he's done, and to be honest... after this episode... he's beyond redemption, IMO. Don't know how he can come back from killing his daughter, to be honest. That was horrifying to watch.

Elsewhere, we learned Ford's able to communicate with other hosts besides Bernard, despite him being dead of course, similar to Arnold in Series 1. His chat to Maeve about her being his favourite sounded an awful lot like something Arnold would've probably said, as-well. It's interesting now that Ford's "dead", he's sounding an awful lot like Arnold. He sympathises with the hosts, and he more or less wants to destroy the park/s. Either that, or he's being deceitful.

Tedddy's suicide moment was heartbreaking. I liked Teddy, and I didn't like when Dolores corrupted him like that. She turned him in to more of a monster than he could handle. I'd hoped he would've gone down a "us against the world" type path, instead. Being completely ruthless to everyone, but Dolores. Instead, she turned him in to the type of monster who would end up killing her, and to prevent that, he took his life. Watching Dolores' reaction at the end there does make me wonder if she's going to turn good again, though, and have a Maeve moment. Seems Ford revealed in this episode Maeve's original path after he died was to escape on that train, but it altered due to the memories of her and her daughter. Maybe Dolores will have a change of heart, and her new quest will be to find a way to bring back Teddy. Who knows?

I haven't the faintest clue what's going to happen in the series finale next week, but judging by what happened in this episode, it's going to be insane. I suppose we also know why Bernard was acting so erratically in the first episode in that last scene, considering he just deleted something from him, and downloaded something in to him. That's probably going to corrupt him pretty badly.

What a great penultimate episode to Series 2. Can't wait to see what happens next!
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10/10
Delores and Teddy
storm_cloud-5563918 June 2018
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For several episodes Delores has been going on and on about how hosts are no longer controlled by humans. They are free to make their own choices. She loves Teddy because of the way he is.

So what does Delores do when Teddy shows too much kindness and empathy? She forces him to change into someone who would rather die than to be what she made him. She's turned into a controlling, killing woman, using hosts for her own ends......just like the guests did.

One more thought: who else is tired of watching only ten or so great episodes of a series only to have wait an entire year until the next season? Westworld, Game of Thrones, Man in the High Castle take years to watch and the payoff isn't always worth the time invested.....ie Lost.
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10/10
Does Westworld create the darkness within,, or was it always there ?
scottfreemail19 June 2018
As the series nears its end, gaps in the Man in Black's storyline are completed, with the episode delves into his private life. Can anyone spend years in a fantasy world untouched by the brutal acts they commit? This has been one of the critical questions that has hung in the air for most of series 2.

As the series has progressed, faced with the brutality of the humans, we find ourselves empathising with the hosts, rooting for their survival. But as the narrative approaches its climax, the question also arises, how far will the hosts go to fight for their own survival?
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9/10
masterpiece
fadel201718 June 2018
This masterpiece has changed my opinion on Tv shows, thank you Westworld
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9/10
Second best episode of the season
singh-nitin51219 June 2018
This episode was perfect. The Man in Black, Teddy, and Bernard close up on their arcs in this episode. The visuals and cinematography are great as always. Previous episode was about consciousness. This one was about choice and free will. This is exactly what I want from the show.
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Point of Origin
theminorityreporter15 March 2020
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When did it creep in? This massive load of darkness....

The man in black has a "Thing" inside him (OBVIOUSLY).

We are subjected to flashback scenes of the man in black's abysmal family drama revolving around addiction, self-inflicted suffering, and... suicide, of course. People with something wrong inside them. Depressing dysfunctional family issues. Later, in the present at the park, he kills several security men and his daughter Emily with a submachine gun, thinking that his daughter is a Robert-rigged host sent to annoy him verbally (and evidently thinking that mass murder is an appropriately-calibrated response). Emily was given a card with the man in black's Westworld history on it by her mother before her mother's suicide (together with a twice-gifted obscene little ballerina music box that Emily had rightly tossed out with disappointment in her youth but came to appreciate later, troublesomely). The card gives the clue too late that she was his real daughter (but any fool would have refrained from shooting her anyway, on the chance that she was). Suicidal and direly wounded (physically as well), he rides limply for a while, then stops and gouges a deep and bloody laceration into his upper forearm after holding his gun to his head but failing to pull the trigger. So, the ONE suicide that would've made some sense didn't happen.

When Dolores and her posse arrive in the region of the Valley Beyond where the Forge (a repository for guest backups) and the 'door' are, they do battle with the Ghost Warriors who try to deny them entry to the Valley for 'spiritual' reasons because they have defined the Valley as a sacred place and regard her as unfitting, calling her the "Death Bringer". True to her Death Bringer ways, Dolores once again commands Teddy to finish off any survivors and Teddy again has a crisis of conscience, letting a remaining Ghost Warrior go.

In an abandoned building, abandoned Teddy finalizes his crisis of conscience and his existence. He recalls falling in love with Dolores when he first laid eyes on her, upon waking up in the lab. We first see a shot of her face (I can't help but notice she's wearing color contacts), then we see a shot of her appearing to be fully nude standing in the corner - in full Barbie mode (I wonder if the authors mean to ramp up interest in her, now that she'll likely be one of the only remaining characters who will move on to the next season...). Teddy says he was worried that she was cold (well, she is now), and he wanted to reach out and touch her. Returning to the present, he touches her face lovingly. Taking some space from her, he unholsters his gun and says she changed him; made him into a monster. She approaches him in her sort of sauntering man-power way and somewhat forebodingly says "You don't want to hurt me, Teddy." He tells Dolores that he could never hurt her and he'll protect her until the day he dies, then he says "I'm sorry, I can't protect you anymore" and shoots himself in the head. Ironically, he was the one character who said he was "just trying" to be something and turned out to really be it: chivalrous. There was nothing wrong with Teddy before Dolores reprogrammed him, or his treatment of her, or his handling of their relationship. Really, there's nothing wrong with chivalry or a man protecting a woman, and his "kind man" sensibilities weren't some kind of critical weakness. Really, his death was the result of her reprogramming herself.

Clementine is preposterously recast as an undead, walking virus (once a sex tool, then a tool of Dolores, now a tool of destruction). She is used to deploy a virus resembling a state of violent psychosis to any hosts in proximity to her. Reminiscent of the 'test session' in which she was brutally beaten by a man for the camera, a new 'test session' depicts people literally ripping each other apart and viciously biting chunks out of each other until they're left as bloody heaps on the floor. It's a big success.

The man in black's unflattering Westworld 'self-portrait' was given to him on the card by Robert; it's just an accumulation of footage from his experiences in Westworld. The Self-On-A-Card concept is very limited; it was supposedly substantiated in a conversation with Emily about the convenient new plot device of the guests' hats being rigged with brain scanners, but they wouldn't be wearing them all the time, if at all, and it's so trite that I just don't even care that it's offered as an explanation. I just think "Whatever".

The Robert Copy is still operating with agency (just making things happen to tidy up the plot). He has Bernard approach the lab where Maeve is so she can receive a message that was left for her in Bernard. We're shown many gratuitous shots of her gory flay wounds and her stoic suffering. The Robert Copy says he didn't want her to suffer here, he says that she was his favorite and that he underestimated her. After 'confirming' her specialness with words and his authoritative presence, he just grants her access to the system so that she can just do Whatever.

Bernard has a nervous breakdown due to the Robert Copy operating with agency in his mind, burdening him with "the origin of an entire species". He shakily makes a deep cut into his upper forearm and hacks into his own code to find the Robertness and delete it.
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6/10
Great production value but story is heavy handed
zeewonka7 March 2019
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As always the production value is top notch. This episode also includes crucial background info on the MIB - finally a substantial character and plot dev. But it is a let down.

I try to feel sad for the death of his wife but cannot bring myself to it ... she kills herself instead of divorcing him? She is upset that William has a dark side, has lost most of her family, and becomes jaded with humanity but she also has the resources to untangle herself from him and start a new life. Like the rest of the show, this episode is too focused on tragedy and big serious dramatic moments without giving good justification for them. The more you think.about it the less sense it makes. This big reveal doesn't tell us anything new about William, just the same old moral ambiguity, selfishness and his losing grip on reality we saw before but this time in his personal life.
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4/10
Needlessly Complicated House of Mirrors.
huckones19 June 2018
The show would be better if it ran in chronological order. I doubt the writers know where it's going so the time jumps add nothing but confusion to the overall storyline. I mean, in my opinion. I've watched every episode since S1E1, some several times, and while the show is interesting and brings forward intriguing concepts it uses confusion and misdirection to fill the holes. It jumps between great technical detail and "Pay no mind to that man behind the curtain!" when the writers need to get from here to there and can't think of how to go about it. Gotta be the dumbest, most incompetent humans ever known. If that's the thrust of the series they made their point last year after 3 episodes. Well, maybe before the end of S1E1. It is otherwise an interesting series. It should either be stupid or smart, not one then the other. I'm going to watch season 3 like I watch the World Series: The last two innings of the last game of the series. The rest is a waste of time. I mean, in my opinion.
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10/10
Every character has reached a maximum level of suffering.
mgidb28 August 2019
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How can I describe this episode. Dolores is alone after Teddy free decision, Would she make the same as Maeve going backwards to revenge. William(the man in black) he couldn't separate between the two worlds which caused killing his daughter, would he revenge instead of killing himself. What game Ford is preparing after all that for William. Is he real or he is something made by his little project. Bernard rescue Elsie by making his first decision against Ford well.
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10/10
Wow...
Galactic_Cruiser16 August 2018
What's to say. Some of the best TV ever. Simple.

Episode 8 was the best ever but this is a close, close second. Just gripping TV. Every scene is like a painting and the characters get richer and richer.
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10/10
WOW, just WOW
pashinho199018 June 2018
Finally, finally a 2nd season episode capable of bringing you back to the epicness of the 1st season. Too bad it happened only at the season's end. Awesome episode, perfect acting, amazing story, an EPIC Man In Black (i.e. William), beautiful ending.
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8/10
Great episodes... but big mistake for the sake of the plot!
steliosantoniou-6082022 June 2018
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Although I find this episode to be excellent cinematically, it fails in terms of the storyline for the sake of drama. For this, you should view what Ford said about why the hosts are actually "free". The hosts are supposed to be "free" because they do not experience conscientiousness in the same sense that we do, I.e. "self-loathing, guilt" etc. are what us humans are supposed to experience and not the hosts. So at the end of the day, why did the (spoiler alert) host commit suicide (you know who) if he can't feel guilt and self-loathing as Ford had said in a previous episode.
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10/10
Man in black has humanity afterall, or has he?
matiasbockerman24 January 2019
Another great flashback story. There are Many layers in the man in black. In Many way, a very tragic episode. But this is one of the episodes what saves this season for an awfull mess. Well shooted as always, soundediting is great and Specially Ed Harris acted really good - as always.
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10/10
Another character study
andreasoestergaard10 April 2020
I liked episode 8 and 9, they felt like small character studies, this one of William. Season 1 had a great plot, but I was beginning to feel like maybe that was all there was to Westworld: plot. These last two episodes (8 and 9 of season 2) proved that Westworld can be more than that - in fact, they barely moved the story forward (and it felt good!)

The ending of this episode was also great. I got some strong modern Prometheus-vibes, but with a twist.
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TV Show Revolution
valeriikashchuk2 April 2020
Not a single film or series caused me such a storm of emotions as Westworld, and especially this episode
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10/10
The best episode ever.
abdulaziz20003527 April 2020
This one of the the best episodes in the series of all tv shows
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10/10
Amazing, Stunning, and a masterpiece
moviesfilmsreviewsinc18 March 2022
In the penultimate episode of Westworld's second season, we saw the fall of the House of Delos, and it was gloriously ugly. It might be the series' darkest hour, a tragedy that spans multiple generations and carries an air of the Bard's Lear. Yet it is also just so fitting. William saw the dollar signs of cloning guests' cognition and figuring out who they are "down to their core," but his total destruction came because his wife was able to do that to him for free. No billions of dollars, R&D, or cybernetic robots of the future required. Indeed, the essence of "Vanishing Point" is to (mostly) put the cards on the table and reveal what the season is about. And like the soul of the man who always wears black, it is a twisted gruesome thing to behold-and one that we cannot peel our eyes away from. This is evident from the top of the hour when we're introduced to William and his wife Juliet on the night she died. Essentially introducing Juliet for the first time (we saw her portrayed at a younger age briefly in the second episode), Sela Ward is required to come in for a single episode and convey a lifetime of suffering in a matter of minutes. Yet the truth of the entire series is uttered by Juliet in these wonderfully terrible moments: "If you keep pretending, you're not going to remember who you are." Unfortunately, on some level, Juliet already knows that William has passed that event horizon and is not coming back. Any confusion of who is the real William-or if there is some truth in the ambiguous center between the two-is squashed by Harris himself. William and Dolores are their own tragedies, suffering from the downside of ostensible free will. They could be the noble gods, but behave like selfish devils of the dirt. It's grim but cathartic, and leaves the future of the hosts and the park, once they "get outside," a complete mystery. But we're reaching the end of the maze begun last April, and it is a beautiful heart of darkness.
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4/10
It needs to be re-edited.
Maddy-the-Weinerdog24 April 2022
Slow dramatic pauses do not create drama. They create boredom. Has the director ever had a conversation? People do not talk like this. It seems like they forgot this isn't supposed to be an expensive soap opera.

Overly dramatic music, as a constant drone, does not create tension.

Pick up the pace, and stop with the dream sequences and bizarre flashbacks at every turn. One flashback per episode is fine. Constant flashbacks are unnecessarily confusing.

Season 2 is a huge letdown. Seems they are trying every trick they learned in film school, to the point of absurdity. Simplify. Simplify.
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5/10
Intentionally vague
skay_baltimore16 May 2022
I read, I think in Vanity Fair, that the director, Toye, loves the whole "Lost"/intentionally vague form of story telling. It's okay, up to a point. But when it's over used, as it is here, it's just a gimmick, as far as I'm concerned. To me, it's a poor excuse for lazy story telling that lacks focus and direction and discipline and doesn't really know where it's going.

My second gripe with this show is that there are fewer and fewer characters that I care enough about to really get immersed in the show. One of the hardest characters for me to get into is Maeve. She's perfectly tough, smart, understands all of the traps of Westworld, etc., yet her entire character is built around "trying to find her daughter". Hell, even other characters point out that the little girl isn't her daughter, it's just another story line. But good old Maeve falls into that same obvious trap over and over and over.

About the only character I think is worth a lick is Teddy. Even after being altered by Dolores, and despite having all of his former memories intact, he's the only one who does the "right thing". The rest are all off the mark in one way or another, and when a series stops having characters that I respect I lose interest in the show. Sometimes WW feels very sophisticated, and other times it feels very amateurish. Hence, the 5/10 star rating. It's just okay, IMO.
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